Post by raysiana on Apr 12, 2012 21:03:36 GMT -5
this is a guide i wrote back a while ago, its something i did for a terrible private server who had third classes, but they never knew thier own skills and ended up rewalking every time something happened, i guess its more now in case of random parties and/or people who dont know what to do for thier class, depending on how a party is set up, this implies you are relying on wizzies as necro killers for the most part i think. Not the only way to do it just a way that works and a way to involve mostly everyone!
HIGH PRIEST
probably the most difficult class to play in nameless
You will get stressed and frusterated with stupid people
(4 people dead and people spamming for buffs)
Jobs of an HP:
Heal and Res obviously
SANCTUARY
i cant stress this enough
Sanctuary is the heaven of HP skills in nameless
(necro is on tank, tank needs heals, sanc damages Necros AND heals party members)
If people are asking for buffs and you are ressing and healing, ignore them
dont let it bother you
and i know its hard lol
ofc you are going to be buffing and things like that as well
NOT EVERYONE NEEDS ASSUMPTIO, you also do not need to sump the Snipers, they have pretty good flee to begin with assumptio on them is not main priority, focus on the tank and wizards with buffs first, they are the people who you want alive most of all
Lex D. the banshees, they cast that stupid death field and the initial impact can automatically kill a lot of undergeared or no geared characters.
Aspercio the classes that need it if you have the time, but it is not something you should worry about if there are more important tasks
Lex A.
its not a big deal in nameless, if you have enough priests where one can spam it, by all means go for it
By enough priests i mean at least one per 3 people
Same goes for Magnus Exorcismus, if you are lacking priests in a nameless party and someone is casting ME, say something
* High Priests CAN tank nameless, I have done it, you want to have at least 10k+ HP and Bathory armor, you can do it by just heal spamming yourself, but this needs constant party damage and needs to be properly executed, and its better to have yourself geared as well (shocker rait?!)*
HIGH WIZARD
Ideally you want 2 high wizards in your nameless
The wiz with the Higher Matk will do SG and the other will spam MS
thats a wizzies job,
other than that
Beez, if you survive after seeing bee, Icewall and sg to tele him so a party res can be done
but with the dungeon warpers and such on this server i really dont see a point to waste the bgems ressing a party
-edit- Please do not use a storm gust if you dont know how to position it, it will knock mobs into party causing people to die, or random mobs attacking random people, etc, it is quite annoying and makes people angry, if you were in a party with me i would talk crap until you fixed it, other people would just be mean as hell.
CLOWN
Bragi, Bragi and MORE BRAGI
Bragi makes your wizzies cast more and cast faster
you want this
CHAMPION
SB tanking
ask for assumtio, occasionally if you feel SB will wear off, tell the party to wait, relog and refresh
WHITESMITH
NO ONE should be meleeing necros besides the tank
(as i said idk about 3rd classes and their "OP" skills this is a basic second class guide)
WS should stay back and just Weapon perfection, DO NOT DO NOT DO NOT use overthrust in nameless
unless you have All the weapon repair mats you need for all lvl weapons
CREATORS
Potion pitch, slim potion pitch, again DO NOT MELEE NECROS
i would Say AD, but nameless is a pointless place to waste acid bottles to be completely honest
Potion pitch can be very useful with blue pots handy a creo can take the place of a Prof. also
when your tank is green, your creator can still potion pitch them
SNIPERS
snipers can be very well put to use in nameless, they can do quite a lot
Main job if your party is well off
A sniper is know as a "Bkiller" aka Banshee killer, They kill banshees
A good bow to use would be a
+10 triple santa poring carded composite bow, now + 10 is not required for this bow.
This will give you the increased damage on banshees that you can put to good use
Snipers can also be utilized in a case where there is no tank,
If you have a good sniper, you can trap necromancers, now if you are too far away when attacking after you trap a necro it will tele this is also know as a "rude attack" on some servers, this tactic is the same way you would tele bee if the need would arize.
Snipers can also be used if theres no possibility of getting wizards, it will take a while longer but its better than no one attacking a necro.
PROFESSORS
Profs have a few nice uses
Before lvl 3 their bolting can help take down mobs a lot faster to speed the process to lvl3
Profs main purpose in a nameless party is to provide SP
if you want to be a bolter prof you best make sure there is another prof willing to SP in the party
Prof bolt damage has capability to one shot necros but without an SP provider people will get cranky
*Sages, you can not provide SP, you should be bolting*
PALLADIN
one word
DEVO
Dont devo everyone in your party, There are specific classes that a pally should devo
Some classes will get you killed if you have terrible people playing them
DEVO YOUR WIZZIES
DEVO YOUR HPs
if your tank is green (undead armor) DEVO YOUR TANK
every other class does not need devo, it is not necissary
LORD KNIGHTS
Lord knight can be used as secondary tanks in nameless
SOUL LINKER
LINK YOUR BRAGI,
other classes come secondary to bragi in nameless as a linker, bragi gets left behind without link
keep him up to speed
Another class you can link if in a party is a dancer/Gypsy
as i said, no other class is important
GYPSY
Service for you, is the only skill you will really need
if you are missing Bkillers, gypsies can be use as a substitution, The can use arrow vulcan
*DANCERS, they cant use AV but they can slap on a bow and DS like no other before running out of sp*
ASASSIN CROSS
For starters
i do realize i cant spell assasin/assassin/asassin
Soul Breaker
with aspersio and a good two dagger weapon their damage is high
*For an Assasin, you dont have Soul Breaker
so you should be using either throw stone once to get a little exp boost from that hit
or grimtoothing*
NINJA
Ninja magic attacks do some decent damage,
I dont know too much about them but they are not at all a key factor of a nameless party
STALKERS
again this class should NOT BE MELEEING ANYTHING
if you do not have the skill plagerize, you should slap a bow on
Plagerize, this can eliminate one of your wizzies or if you dont have one this can be your party saver
have someone Meteor storm you
simple as that
SUPER NOVICE
super novices happen...
They can buff or bolt
SIMPLE AND BASICS OF NAMELESS
SB champ/ or other form of tank should always head the party
the rest of the party members should stay a decent distance back to avoid aggro
Snipers should take care of banshees as they appear before worrying about other things considering you have a full class party
ONE HP should be designated to lex D. The banshees if a banshee is lexed and another HP uses lex it will cancel out,
IF you have a Priest using ME
WATCH YOUR SANCTUARY, sanctuary overrides ME
If you aggro something and you are not a tank, dont run into the party, if they are unprepared this could mean a wipe
Wizards should focus on necromancers, Banshees do not take as much damage from magic as they do from the physical attacks of snipers
Wizards should use only 2 spells when dealing with necros
*REMEMBER STORM GUST DOES NOT STACK*
so the wiz with the higher matk should SG
and assuming you have another Wizz they should just be spamming Meteor storm.
NO ONE
and i mean NO ONE should be wearing ED armor in nameless, you cant be ressed wearing ED,
Bathory is a good choice, especially for a tank, this will make it so you cant go green (undead armor)
and yet you can still be healed
Well this is my little guide to nameless
i hope its a bit of help =/
like i said i have yet to play 3rd classes so im not sure how they work so well, but i have practically LIVED in nameless leveling characters for a year and a half lol
so if theres one thing i know on RO
its nameless
WHERE I CAME FROM IT WAS NAMELESS NOT ABBEY KAY
<3
but yeah, this is my nameless guide
im probably missing some things i will edit them when i think of them :3
-edit #1- a good party is a small party
If you have a good wizard for starters you do not need a tank, lots of matk and a good bragi will be needed for this
basically
SMALL PARTY
1 Hwizz
1 Clown with bragi
1 Sniper to take care of banshees
1 HP to keep the buffs and heals up
1 Professor (not needed just for sp)
Anything after this in a small party is not required
MEDIUM TO LARGE
Now
Its complicated to say when you are doing larger parties
the larger the party the more unorganized it will be
try to have at least 1 HP per ever 3~4 people
we are talking minimum on a 20 man party, you want to try for 3 HPs
so with that started
3 HPs
2 HWizz
1 Bragi
2-3 Snipers
1 SB tank/ LK, if an LK isnt tanking, he shouldnt be hitting necros
1 Professor
after this you do not really need specific classes
but you would like before others to have:
Devo, one is enough.
Linker, everyone hates a slow bragi.
Dancer/Gypsy, Service for you gives more SP making the time between soul changes a bit longer stretched.
Everything else isn't needed but can be picked up,
most classes have a use in nameless some more than others.
HIGH PRIEST
probably the most difficult class to play in nameless
You will get stressed and frusterated with stupid people
(4 people dead and people spamming for buffs)
Jobs of an HP:
Heal and Res obviously
SANCTUARY
i cant stress this enough
Sanctuary is the heaven of HP skills in nameless
(necro is on tank, tank needs heals, sanc damages Necros AND heals party members)
If people are asking for buffs and you are ressing and healing, ignore them
dont let it bother you
and i know its hard lol
ofc you are going to be buffing and things like that as well
NOT EVERYONE NEEDS ASSUMPTIO, you also do not need to sump the Snipers, they have pretty good flee to begin with assumptio on them is not main priority, focus on the tank and wizards with buffs first, they are the people who you want alive most of all
Lex D. the banshees, they cast that stupid death field and the initial impact can automatically kill a lot of undergeared or no geared characters.
Aspercio the classes that need it if you have the time, but it is not something you should worry about if there are more important tasks
Lex A.
its not a big deal in nameless, if you have enough priests where one can spam it, by all means go for it
By enough priests i mean at least one per 3 people
Same goes for Magnus Exorcismus, if you are lacking priests in a nameless party and someone is casting ME, say something
* High Priests CAN tank nameless, I have done it, you want to have at least 10k+ HP and Bathory armor, you can do it by just heal spamming yourself, but this needs constant party damage and needs to be properly executed, and its better to have yourself geared as well (shocker rait?!)*
HIGH WIZARD
Ideally you want 2 high wizards in your nameless
The wiz with the Higher Matk will do SG and the other will spam MS
thats a wizzies job,
other than that
Beez, if you survive after seeing bee, Icewall and sg to tele him so a party res can be done
but with the dungeon warpers and such on this server i really dont see a point to waste the bgems ressing a party
-edit- Please do not use a storm gust if you dont know how to position it, it will knock mobs into party causing people to die, or random mobs attacking random people, etc, it is quite annoying and makes people angry, if you were in a party with me i would talk crap until you fixed it, other people would just be mean as hell.
CLOWN
Bragi, Bragi and MORE BRAGI
Bragi makes your wizzies cast more and cast faster
you want this
CHAMPION
SB tanking
ask for assumtio, occasionally if you feel SB will wear off, tell the party to wait, relog and refresh
WHITESMITH
NO ONE should be meleeing necros besides the tank
(as i said idk about 3rd classes and their "OP" skills this is a basic second class guide)
WS should stay back and just Weapon perfection, DO NOT DO NOT DO NOT use overthrust in nameless
unless you have All the weapon repair mats you need for all lvl weapons
CREATORS
Potion pitch, slim potion pitch, again DO NOT MELEE NECROS
i would Say AD, but nameless is a pointless place to waste acid bottles to be completely honest
Potion pitch can be very useful with blue pots handy a creo can take the place of a Prof. also
when your tank is green, your creator can still potion pitch them
SNIPERS
snipers can be very well put to use in nameless, they can do quite a lot
Main job if your party is well off
A sniper is know as a "Bkiller" aka Banshee killer, They kill banshees
A good bow to use would be a
+10 triple santa poring carded composite bow, now + 10 is not required for this bow.
This will give you the increased damage on banshees that you can put to good use
Snipers can also be utilized in a case where there is no tank,
If you have a good sniper, you can trap necromancers, now if you are too far away when attacking after you trap a necro it will tele this is also know as a "rude attack" on some servers, this tactic is the same way you would tele bee if the need would arize.
Snipers can also be used if theres no possibility of getting wizards, it will take a while longer but its better than no one attacking a necro.
PROFESSORS
Profs have a few nice uses
Before lvl 3 their bolting can help take down mobs a lot faster to speed the process to lvl3
Profs main purpose in a nameless party is to provide SP
if you want to be a bolter prof you best make sure there is another prof willing to SP in the party
Prof bolt damage has capability to one shot necros but without an SP provider people will get cranky
*Sages, you can not provide SP, you should be bolting*
PALLADIN
one word
DEVO
Dont devo everyone in your party, There are specific classes that a pally should devo
Some classes will get you killed if you have terrible people playing them
DEVO YOUR WIZZIES
DEVO YOUR HPs
if your tank is green (undead armor) DEVO YOUR TANK
every other class does not need devo, it is not necissary
LORD KNIGHTS
Lord knight can be used as secondary tanks in nameless
SOUL LINKER
LINK YOUR BRAGI,
other classes come secondary to bragi in nameless as a linker, bragi gets left behind without link
keep him up to speed
Another class you can link if in a party is a dancer/Gypsy
as i said, no other class is important
GYPSY
Service for you, is the only skill you will really need
if you are missing Bkillers, gypsies can be use as a substitution, The can use arrow vulcan
*DANCERS, they cant use AV but they can slap on a bow and DS like no other before running out of sp*
ASASSIN CROSS
For starters
i do realize i cant spell assasin/assassin/asassin
Soul Breaker
with aspersio and a good two dagger weapon their damage is high
*For an Assasin, you dont have Soul Breaker
so you should be using either throw stone once to get a little exp boost from that hit
or grimtoothing*
NINJA
Ninja magic attacks do some decent damage,
I dont know too much about them but they are not at all a key factor of a nameless party
STALKERS
again this class should NOT BE MELEEING ANYTHING
if you do not have the skill plagerize, you should slap a bow on
Plagerize, this can eliminate one of your wizzies or if you dont have one this can be your party saver
have someone Meteor storm you
simple as that
SUPER NOVICE
super novices happen...
They can buff or bolt
SIMPLE AND BASICS OF NAMELESS
SB champ/ or other form of tank should always head the party
the rest of the party members should stay a decent distance back to avoid aggro
Snipers should take care of banshees as they appear before worrying about other things considering you have a full class party
ONE HP should be designated to lex D. The banshees if a banshee is lexed and another HP uses lex it will cancel out,
IF you have a Priest using ME
WATCH YOUR SANCTUARY, sanctuary overrides ME
If you aggro something and you are not a tank, dont run into the party, if they are unprepared this could mean a wipe
Wizards should focus on necromancers, Banshees do not take as much damage from magic as they do from the physical attacks of snipers
Wizards should use only 2 spells when dealing with necros
*REMEMBER STORM GUST DOES NOT STACK*
so the wiz with the higher matk should SG
and assuming you have another Wizz they should just be spamming Meteor storm.
NO ONE
and i mean NO ONE should be wearing ED armor in nameless, you cant be ressed wearing ED,
Bathory is a good choice, especially for a tank, this will make it so you cant go green (undead armor)
and yet you can still be healed
Well this is my little guide to nameless
i hope its a bit of help =/
like i said i have yet to play 3rd classes so im not sure how they work so well, but i have practically LIVED in nameless leveling characters for a year and a half lol
so if theres one thing i know on RO
its nameless
WHERE I CAME FROM IT WAS NAMELESS NOT ABBEY KAY
<3
but yeah, this is my nameless guide
im probably missing some things i will edit them when i think of them :3
-edit #1- a good party is a small party
If you have a good wizard for starters you do not need a tank, lots of matk and a good bragi will be needed for this
basically
SMALL PARTY
1 Hwizz
1 Clown with bragi
1 Sniper to take care of banshees
1 HP to keep the buffs and heals up
1 Professor (not needed just for sp)
Anything after this in a small party is not required
MEDIUM TO LARGE
Now
Its complicated to say when you are doing larger parties
the larger the party the more unorganized it will be
try to have at least 1 HP per ever 3~4 people
we are talking minimum on a 20 man party, you want to try for 3 HPs
so with that started
3 HPs
2 HWizz
1 Bragi
2-3 Snipers
1 SB tank/ LK, if an LK isnt tanking, he shouldnt be hitting necros
1 Professor
after this you do not really need specific classes
but you would like before others to have:
Devo, one is enough.
Linker, everyone hates a slow bragi.
Dancer/Gypsy, Service for you gives more SP making the time between soul changes a bit longer stretched.
Everything else isn't needed but can be picked up,
most classes have a use in nameless some more than others.